The US “Southwest” was stolen from Mexicans

The United States “Southwest:” A bandit’s loot by means of murder and theft

Mexico gained independence from Spain in 1821 after ending years of war against colonial imposition and crimes by the Spanish invaders. The war left Mexico drained out which contributed to neglect its Northern territories known today as the United States “Southwest.” The original name of that land is Aztlan and Chicano descendants from the original inhabitants still use that name today.

While Mexico was at war with Spain, thousands of white colonists, cattleman, adventures, and mercenaries, were coming from other parts of North America that had been already invaded and occupied looking for land and gold they could find and obtain “by any means.” These mercenaries fixed their eyes and interest in what is today “Texas,” placed themselves in land plots, and later enlarged their population so that by 1835 there were more white foreigners than native Mexicans in the area.  In 1836 the white foreigners occupied most of the territory by force, declared “independence” and called the stolen lands “Republic of Texas.” This bandit’s act caused the war between Mexico and the United States for the first time until the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed between the two countries on February 2, 1848. Mexico lost the land the whites called “Texas” but subsequently the rest of the Northern territories which eventually became part of the whole mass land known today as the US “Southwest.”

The land stolen from Mexico is bigger than Germany and France combined and considered to be among the riches in the world where an abundance of gold was found after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed. The native Mexicans were forced to become US citizens or leave the area one year after the Treaty was signed. As a result of the invader’s laws, thousands of native Mexicans left but the great majority stayed and became citizens. Throughout the development of the so-called “Republic of Texas” the war against Mexicans was made of grave crimes. The well-known philosopher and historian Jose Vasconcelos wrote that one reason whites perpetrated horrible crimes against Mexicans, was because they believed in the concept known as “manifest destiny” which in practice meant to “kill all the Mexicans and take Mexico.” History has registered thousands of grotesque crimes against Mexicans in that part of the Native American Continent, but more outstanding for having similarities with the grave crimes by whites in Central and South America, are those related to the taken of men by force of arms out of their homes to be murdered, then the white killers would back to the homes and rape women and little girls, murder them, set the homes on fire, and kill all the animals.

The historian Jose Vasconcelos wrote that Mexicans used to refer to whites who committed the crimes as “drunken bandits, fornicators, devils vomited from hell, and monsters who defy the laws of nature; they are white men with dirty beards, ignorant, shameless, stinking, with their hats thrown towards the back, thirsty for the wish of stealing our lands and wealth, and for raping our beautiful young ladies.”   That reference is still valid today.

Sociologist Stan Steiner wrote a book entitled “La Raza de Bronze” in which he states that “the massacres throughout the ‘Texas’ border was truly incredible, as most whites had turned into cold blooded killers totally degenerate spreading terror all along the territory killing people only because they were Mexicans, calling them ‘stupid greasers’ before murdering them.”  The author also wrote in his book about a season called “Mexican hunting” in which the biggest and most incredible crimes were committed against Mexicans by white men, while no punishment was imposed on the killers for their crimes since a judge or jury would not dare to condemn whites for murdering Mexicans. “In reading reports by authorities it feels as if there was indeed a season for real hunting along the border in those days,” wrote the author.

According to other historians who specialize in “Southwest” history, the violence against Mexicans had reached such crisis and proportions that the Secretary of State forced the Governor of the area to take severe measurements in order to protect local Mexicans from white violence in “Texas” and in other parts of the “southwest.”  It was generally known but not “officially” admitted that racism was embedded in the violence against Mexicans and as a result, Mexico refused to become a member of the League of Nations arguing that the written agreements did not provided with guarantees on racial equality between whites and Mexicans. The documents were declared to be racist.  In an attempt to explain the criminal behaviour of whites against Mexicans, Journalist Manuel Ugarte wrote in the El Heraldo newspaper during May of 1900 the following:

The irreconcilable opposition between the white and Mexican Communities is presented very vividly and obvious in the hard and indifferent white character; they are falsely arrogant, defy nature, seek to impose the mark of competition, individualism, and blind selfish ambition to possess;  like Romans in times of triumph, they want to have as personal servants Chinese, Mexicans or Negroes to pick up the left over’s from their banquets as payment for the work of sub-alternates.

Note that even though that relates to past history nothing seems to have changed fundamentally if we look at the attitudes and actions of whites towards La Raza in general. One historical fact related to the present political, social, and economic reality of Native American Raza en general, is that which Sociologist Frank Olmstead points out very accurately in his book entitled “The Destiny of a Continent.”  In that book the author wrote about the great tragedy suffered by Mexicans during history and what could happen if an attempt was made to establish mutual harmony between whites and Mexicans. He wrote the following eloquent explanation of a reality:

Between whites and Mexicans there is now and always will be an inevitable antagonism based purely on racial bias on the part of whites that will prevent any healthy human relations of personal character if both would seek to join.  The vulgar white mix of hypocritical puritanism and bandolerism that distinguish their majority, does not adopt so that the two can associate in real harmony.  The majority of white’s think of Mexicans and other Native Americans as being stupid, ignorant, effervescing, lazy, fanatics, greasers, and full of stupid passion for love.  The whites also think of Mexicans and other Native Americans as idolatrous, manipulated by priests, and racially do not see or think of them as white.  Consequently, as a result of the white’s state of mind, they treat Mexicans and other Native Americans with disrespect, insolence, and when they can, with injustice.”

This description of the white mentality towards Mexicans and other Native Americans is not necessarily applicable only to the past. That sick mentality is still prevailing nowadays and is the root of most social problems imposed on all Native Americans, regardless of nationality.  Based on the white’s problem related to their state of mind and attitudes towards natives in general, the social formation to which La Raza was subjected through crimes before and after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed, is clearly the root of present day racism and other social ills affecting all Native Americans, regardless of what part of the American Continent the person was born in.

The history in that part of the Native American Continent when in 1848 the North of Mexico became the “southwest” of the US gave an accumulation of racial, sentimental, political, and ideological elements that now form well-defined characteristics that should be manifested through transcending acts on behalf of the history of not only Mexico, but of Native America in general. The historical duty of all Native Americans is to recover the land stolen by whites through murder and theft for the purpose of creating and keeping this capitalist system of exploitation at their expense.

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159 Responses to The US “Southwest” was stolen from Mexicans

  1. George Miller Mendez says:

    So true, the dirty Americans stole half of Mexico’s territory, they divided this nation, Mexico was a free country, after its independence from Spain. The disputed territory was just Rio Grande and Nueces river, and at least, the USA now has 25% more territory. They had no shame.

    • nerfball6 says:

      Try reading about the Guadalupe Hidalgo Treaty and the Gadsden’s Purchase

    • Barack Obama says:

      I am confused because you left out: Mexico falling into dictatorship in October 1935; Texas Revolt in October 1935; Texas Independence in April 1936; Complete lack of law enforcement; California Revolt in June 1846. Then after a short war, the US reestablished the Constitution of Mexico in August 1846, brought back democracy, and paid Mexico for the conquered land. And Mexico fell into dictatorship again under the Austrian Maximilian in June 1864, during the U.S. Civil War, which scared the US into Sherman’s March to the Sea, which destroyed the south. Napoleon III sponsored Maximillioin and Queen Victoria order the entire Gibraltar garrison to stand in salute as the Hapsburg flotilla sought to create another imperial dictatorship on the U.S. boarder.

      • Anonymous says:

        You forgot to include that Mexico abolished slavery long before the Americans did. Democracy doesn’t mean shit when one nation still had “inferior” races as slaves, and I’m not even a Mexican.

      • Jesus says:

        You are the biggest lair that i ever read. …….go back to africa

    • Bill Williams says:

      Name one city…JUST ONE, that Mexicans have moved into and fixed up or improved. The truth is you destroy everything you touch

      • Jesus says:

        We can do what ever we want. In our land which is southwest america. Please go back to Europe

    • Juan Jose Apache Navajo says:

      It is obvious the poor planning of the Spanish and French resulted in remnants of undefined settlers who could never have survived without joining New England, or the Real whites. Need I remind you Spain was occupied by muslims and France’s futures were dependant on the British, further without the RUSSIANS, WW2 was a loss for the US’s little buddy France who simply put, never put up a fight. History is skewed to appear as if some holy spirit entitled white nigglets to actually believe the land was theirs. We call them squatters and insolent people. In reality, Mexico’s power, demonstrated by Not allowing Spain or France to reign helped present day England from having to procure this region. That puts fear in the hearts of poor white people of all types. So they cower in the shadows of the US government where these poor losers are All allowed to survive since the killing of pink folks is now a crime.

      • New World Order says:

        You are going to be ground into the dirt. Who do you think is going to win this war?? I’ll tell you who’s going to own you and the US. Globalists, elitist billionaires like the Clintons, Bushes, George Soros, Bill Gates, the Russian, Chinese, Swiss billionaires. They (like you) don’t care about white Americans either. They are going to use you up, then toss you in the trash. All the little white, brown, black, red, yellow ones in this country that think they “own” anything had better think again You will be left powerless.
        One World, baby, It’s the New World Order. Haha

  2. mexican people says:

    usa is a evil country that became rich; FOR STEALING A LAND THAT BELONG TO MEXICO.

    • john says:

      my family ranch was stolens over 20000 acres by anglos they were killed or driven out its all true

      • fueto says:

        oh really? lol

      • carrins says:

        lol,that’s so cute

      • Abby says:

        My family’s ancestors had deeds to lands in southwest Texas, they would travel to Mexico and Texas back and forth. So the invaders took over the land thinking it belongs to no one. But when. My ancestors came with there deeds, the invaders became violently and killed everyone and stole the Land like the thieves they are. Wow what a way to earn the land by stealing and killing. No pride or shame

    • Lilith Cross says:

      Keep on saying that. Mexico City was captured… not counting California & New Mexico, almost 80% of your country was under the occupation of the United States Army, under John C. Fremont… If WE WANTED TO… WE COULD HAVE GONE FOR THE WHOLE 100-FUCKING PERCENT OF MEXICO AND PUSHED YOU FUCKERS INTO GRAN COLOMBIA! Your country was given $18.25 million for the land and for reparations against the citizens who were displaced. $18.25 MILLION in 1848 DOLLARS. Do you know how much that is worth in today’s money?!? $553,030,303.03 in 2014 Dollars. You guys signed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, your leaders in 1848 DID NOT HAVE GUNS TO THEIR HEADS. But they signed it. That means the territory was SOLD, you were given a fair price for it. YOU FUCKERS got a better deal for less land than FRANCE GOT FOR THE ENTIRE LOUISIANA PURCHASE! Napoleon received $10 million, Alexander II of Russia only got 7.2 million for ALASKA. Compared to the both of them, MEXICO WAS PAID MORE THAN WHAT THE TWO OF THEM RECEIVED COMBINED.

      • Don Francisco says:

        Thank you sir for setting some of these educationally deprived idiotas straight.
        People respond out of misguided emotion without ever bothering to check out the historical facts. They just show their complete ignorance of history.
        Que tengas un buen día

      • AL Reynoso says:

        Better “Deal than France”? That wasn’t their homeland you raper of land and people. Our people came from Aztlan or what you pilgrims call the Southwest

      • The policy of The Truth regarding comments is that we will publish any comment sent to us. We think that comments provide an opportunity to learn about the mentality of others regarding this rather sensitive subject and so far we have learned a lot. The only comments we will reject and trash are those containing vulgar insults.

      • Mxperson says:

        Thats bullshit, un the early 19th century México was the most powerful country in America, mexican army won the war, when mexican army was sleeping after celebrating the victory, a coward named Sam Houston put a gun in president Antonio López de Santa Ana’s head, forcing him to sign the Guadalupe Hidalgo Treat, but americans never recognize the dirty origins of their money, you killed a whole culture, stole Alaska from Russians, stole Louisiana from french and the excuse you use is: we paid for it, but just imagine what would be your country without southwest Golf and oil, alaska’s oil, and Louidiana’s fertile lands.

      • Jesus says:

        You come over here and say it on my face you chicken white basterd but come alone don’t bring your British pussy friends to defend you, im MEXICAN 100% and very proud fight like a man with out allies like always you pussy coward. …

    • vic says:

      ummmm the spanish did the same thing, they killed most of the natives living there and took over nothing new guys just because america does it now its evil that how most land is acquired

    • Conquest was the way the ENTIRE WORLD worked at the time. Before Mexico laid claim to that area, it belonged to yet another group of indigenous people. If the USA gave this land back to Mexico, would Mexico then turn it over to the people they ‘stole’ it from? Probably not.

      • Abby says:

        Angela Mexican people are native Americans a large portion of us are European and native Americans. Read the history Mexico had over 2000 tribes including Apache and Navajo.many in south mexico do not Evan speak Spanish they speak there ancient native language.

    • Maricela Jaye says:

      The U.S. paid Mexico $18.25 million in 1845 for the land. Mexico was broke & didn’t give a damn about the land that was sold.
      The Mexican people would never have looked for gold in California much less
      accomplished anything near what the American people have. By American, I
      mean all the people that make up the great melting pot that makes America GREAT. Why else would more than 2 million people become naturalized citizens legally each & every year. That’s more than all other countries combined. AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

  3. lilly says:

    Do you seriously think America is going to “give back” the American South West? Hell no! Yall clam that this is your “homeland” but it isn’t any more. It is part of America now so get over it. How would you feel if Spain wanted Mexico back? Also, if you took over the southwest, Mexico’s economy wont change. The southwest is prosperous because its part of America. If it was taken over by Mexico, all the businesses and company’s and other Americans will leave. It all would start to look like the corrupt land full of poverty that you call Mexico. Also, we didn’t “steal” it. The United States bought it LEGALLY for 15 million in 1848. After that purchase, the southwest became no longer part of Mexico. And if Mexico tried to “take” back the southwest will just end up in war. America and all of its allies will come and DESTROY Mexico. Just get over it already. Your never going to get the southwest so deal with it

    • rich says:

      Mexico did not belong to spain they invaded.Mexico was forced to take the 15 million.Even congressman abe Lincoln was against the usa going to war against mexico he felt it was an unjust war.

    • Cesar says:

      America referes to north and South America not just this stupid country full of fukin racist assholes and theifs

      • mexican killer says:

        That land between Canada and Mexico is called the United States of America, fuckhead

      • Bill Williams says:

        Name one city…JUST ONE, that Mexicans have moved into and fixed up or improved. The truth is you destroy everything you touch.

    • betty burns says:

      As a white American, I am appalled at your disgusting arrogent comment. You are the reason why most people outside the United States have such contempt for us. You are ignorant of history, (what lead up to the loss of those territories) totally un-empathetic to the plight of the indigenous people of this nation. In more enlightened circles of the United States, you are regarded as an “UGLY AMERICAN and a Stain.”

    • JG says:

      They bought it at gun point. Besides that Us history will only tell you what they want you to know. Us history is stained with lies and sin. But I am glad because judgement is coming to this nation and your eye will see the destruction of this nation

      • carrins says:

        oh really when do you suppose that will happen?? Most likely never. lol, you think you know history

      • Velasco says:

        Well said JG: the time is here already, US is in the world market for sale and the Chinese have the first bet..!

    • Toño says:

      Take around you (guero) Mexicans and other Latinos are already taking over. Besides U.S has lots of enemies like China, Russia. Germany offered Mexico military weapons to take over the land when U.S had world war2. No need to have war (ese) we just walking in like kings bitch.

    • Velasco says:

      Mexico was never owned by the spaniels, little by little you will be selling your own country to the Chinese I call that Karma, first able try to pay your debt that will soon over pass 24 trillion dollars. ::))

      • Juan Jose Apache Navajo says:

        WTF are you on?
        Visit the facts you poor, uneducated entitled pig race dumbshit. http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/

        US debt 19,282,703,718,212
        19 trillion

        Mexico debt 440,920,518,707
        440 billion

        *Per Citizen
        US 59740 each
        Mexico 3925 each

        My guess is make “illegals” legal to help pay for your errors. Hmmmm. Debt slavery.
        And don’t get me started on student debt, no worries though, you are obviously, Not in that group. Du’oh.

        * Data as of 6-12-16

  4. Most (or all) Caucasians deny the historical facts related to what is now the US Southwest. The same is true about the facts on how the US came into being. The fair conclusion is that denying the historical facts shows the irresponsible mentality of whites as part of their arrogance on which their racial “superiority” is based on. This of course is not expected to be admitted by whites.

    • What seems to be left out of these sorts of discussions is an explanation of how the people of Mexico would have a right to claim Texas as their own in the first place. The only thing that connects Texas with Mexico is that the whole area was claimed by Spain. The groups that inhabited Mexico before the arrival of the Spanish in 1519 for the most part were not associated with the groups that inhabited Texas.

      Texas was never a homeland for the people of Mexico, and they did not migrate to Texas in large numbers before 1821 for a number of reasons. When Mexico gained independence from Spain in that year, there were only about 3700 people living in the interior of Texas, not counting Native Americans. After Mexican Independence, as you referenced, Anglos flooded Texas and quickly outnumbered the Tejanos already there. It was only 15 years from the time Mexico gained independence until Texas broke away from Mexico.

      During those 15 years, Mexico’s incompetent government of Texas did not win them any fans, either. It’s hard to support a government where you have somebody crown themselves emperor (Iturbide), and then have somebody like Santa Anna come to power only a few years later. Those 15 years were filled with coup attempts, and when Texas finally rebelled, they were only one of ten Mexican states to rebel, Texas just happened to be the only one that succeeded.

      So I ask you, if Mexicans did not migrate to the interior or Texas in large numbers, if Mexico only held Texas for 15 years after the end of Spanish rule, and if Mexico and Texas are only connected by the fact that they were claimed by Spain, what exactly is it that gives Mexico more of a right to Texas than the United States has, other than Mexico having claimed the area first.

      Which brings me to what I believe. All of Mexico and Texas were stolen from Native Americans by Europeans. Texas being stolen from Native Americans who lived in Texas in no way means that any Native Americans who lived elsewhere have any right to claim Texas. This includes the people of Mexico. So yes, I agree Mexico and its people have been treated badly by Americans, but I just don’t see where Mexico has a claim to Texas that is any stronger than Spain’s or the US’s.

      • James Smith says:

        Wow…very well said. Are their going to be any replies, I wonder?

      • John Perk says:

        SURE Liar,the people LIVING IN what is now Texas today,who did they resemble,certainly not Spaniards nor White Europeans.But then again coming from an Apologist,Lt me guess,what we call Native American today,wasn,t there either RIGHT?

      • sigfreud says:

        So if large portions of your declared territory are populated by foreigners to the point that the foreigners become the majority, then it becomes the foreigners territory? Thank you, you just made the perfect argument for Texas and the rest of the Southwest going back to Mexico. Eventually Mexicans will outnumber whites again thanks to low white birth rate and skin cancer. Yes, the very fact that you need SP 52 just to hang around means you don’t belong here.

      • Anonymous says:

        As you said, Texas was always more anglos than Mexican. But that was because most Americans moved there as a first step for the manifest destiny. Most were mad because they weren’t allowed to have slaves and wanted to do so, the father of Texas (who I respect more), unlike the other Americans in Texas, suggested that they should be the one assimilating with Mexico, not the contrary, but he was arrested because they suspected him of being one of those Americans conspiring against Mexico (a big mistake, no question), while I don’t support how the Americans went to another country to invade (just like they did with Hawaii), I respect the man who have Texas its independence. But aside from that, everything was just manifest destiny stuff. By that logic, Muslims should conquer Europe and claim it as theirs because it can’t assimilate with their culture.

      • g says:

        So basically you say that if you have an empty building of yours and some dudes begin to inhabit it then it belongs to them? And what if they say to you: “You don’t have any rights over this building, you beat your wife and your house is a mess, we don’t like it, we will manage this better than you, so fuck off…” Brilliant logic Einstein.

        Your rationalizations to justify your dirty history are pathetic lol

    • No says:

      So true The whites are getting weaker that’s why they are threatened by Mexicans we are coming back to take what is ours that’s why they will never be able to stop us from coming here!

      • carrins says:

        lol, and the mexicans’ health are any better?

      • Robert says:

        If you think we are getting weaker,just try us boyo.Not all the savage brown turds in all the world could take even one mile of what we won fairly by the conquest of your kind.You scream to the heavens that your land has been stolen,but it changes nothing.On our worst day,we are more than a match for all of South America combined.So come….try us.I dare you boy.

  5. Sandy says:

    What do you expect from people who:
    1- their bible tell them to kill All humans, animals, and rape their enemies women.
    2- they think they are the descendants of the Romans but in the same time overlook the fact that Romans enslaved the European whites more than any other nations.
    3- their success in colonizing half the world made them think they are invincible.

    • James Smith says:

      1. No where in the Bible does it instruct any of us to kill all humans, animals, or commit rape. There are histories referring to it having been done. But, not instructions to do such a thing.
      2. The Italian is a descendent of the Roman. And the Romans were as white as any other European. This is because they were European. They did conquest most of Europe. But they did not enslave more of us than any other nation. That title is held by the Russian Communists.
      3. You are exactly right on your third point. And, it is a mindset that will have serious consequences,
      In conclusion: I believe a claim on Texas by Mexico is invalid. If Texas belongs to Mexico because they took it in open warfare from Spain et.al. and such a claim is valid based on your Nations right of Conquest. Then, would it not likewise be true that Texas’ claim of Independence from Mexico is valid based on that same right of Conquest? Would this be true, especially considering that they were left with little choice but to defy and resist the corrupt and tyrannical Mexican government that they lived under at the time?

      • John says:

        Example of the Bible instructing to kill: “They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.” (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    • denoferth says:

      Sandy, aren’t you confusing the Quran with the Bible?

  6. Blubber blubber blubber

    Violence and conquest knows no racial boundaries ask the folk who inhabited the lands of china before the Han arrived ….

    Or indeed the brutality meted out by some African tribes to conquer others to provide slaves for Muslim slavery trade….

    Or how the Aztecs, toltecs etc treated others when in their height of power …

    The Mexicans lost. Grow up and face it.

  7. Phillip Bergen says:

    Before the Europeans arrived in the area now known as “Mexico” the various tribes there were well organized and made great ritual of killing and subjugating each other. When victorious, they murdered their captives as a way of earning blessings from their deities. They don’t do that any more. Neither do the Americans–those who are the children of the European groups that did this too. Here is the reason why things have changed: Christianity has had a huge impact on the way we humans relate to each other. All in all, I’d say that things have turned out rather well for all concerned–given the “traditions” of all of our ancestors. Mexico today is the business of today’s Mexicans. Shall they give it back to the Acatecs, Cocopas, Tepehuas, Toltecs, Zapotecs, Mayas etc? It’s complicated! Let the quality of life there speak for the quality of the Mexican world view–as it does in the US. As it does in all nations. Indeed, God help all of us deal with our current realities without repeating the barbarism of the past in either our deeds or our words.

  8. Luis Lozano says:

    Poor Mexico it’s been ramsacked raped by Spaniards, French & Gringos & still being ruin by Gringos dependence on drugs dirty harmful Mexican politicians de todos modos ! Viva Mexico ! Cabrones

  9. Edgarpoet says:

    People will believe the truth to be something it really is not. Because some radical Hispanic teacher proclaims that America stole Texas and California from Mexico, foolish uneducated
    Mexican children believe that teacher. Spain invaded Mexico, Spain inhabited California
    and the southwest. Mexicans, as they now call themselves, were mostly poor farmers,
    fishermen or unskilled slaves for the Spanish invaders, the Spanish were at war with the Native
    Americans, not over land rights, but over their women being raped, and hunting grounds being invaded. There was a war fought over this territory, The U.S won that war, then generously paid
    15 million to the established Mexican Government for the territory . So, we stole nothing.
    The Mexican Gov sold the land that did not even “belong” to them. This land belonged to Native Americans, NOT MEXICANS. WAKE UP! Stop spreading racism against the Caucasians, and if you really think the whites are terrible people, STOP receiving housing vouchers and food stamps that I have worked for 35 years to pay for, and If Mexico is so wonderful, then why not return there?

    • Laura Madness says:

      Thank you!
      I’m sick of being blamed and reviled and demanded to feel guilty for being white! Learn the truth about slavery, the colonization of the US and the Southwest! You can’t “own” an earth that was here long before people were. We live on it, not own it.
      And it’s inciteful, divisive crap like this that stops everyone from getting anywhere but pissed off and more hateful.

    • Derek says:

      Well said. The truth hurts and the sad truth is that Mexico lost the war, period. Everything else really doesn’t matter. Oh, I should mention that the Alamo had a lot to do with why The United States eventually went to war with Mexico. That was a massacre from the Mexican side. So while I don’t doubt that SOME (not all) of these American atrocities mentioned by these leftist activist professors happened, they probably did, but Mexico is not guiltless in that matter, nor are the Aztecs and nor is any civilization for that matter. In the end it is just another leftist piece of propaganda trying to sway more young people to their brand of reality, which really isn’t reality at all, it’s fairly land.

    • No says:

      Native Americans and native Mexicans they are all Indians to these lands the rightful owners! You people can be so stupid!

      • Mundo says:

        It was a provoked war. You guys came from Europe to invade and take what belonged to others. You killed more than 1 million Native Indians and also Mexicans. You face reality. Read History 101.

      • Robert says:

        That’s right Munro.it’s called war and the losers generally get their shit taken at the end of a war.Be grateful we didn’t take the whole damn thing.By right of conquest,we could have.

    • 100% mexicano says:

      Return where when we already here men*so. . brown pride. Aribba mexico. Keep wishing you had our pride gringos. You hate that you wanna be like us. Ha keep being scared. BC you know the truth prevails. And you hate to know we will make it. That’s why you call us Mexicans. BC we can. So come on raza. So we puede. It’s not s history thing either. It’s being real that causes there dilemma BC they want to be realer than us knowing they can’t. And if somebody thinks different meet me. Look in my eyes and see if you don’t feel inferior. Lol but what can I say thanks life.

    • Abby says:

      Northern Mexicans are mix of European and native Americans. Today in Mexico many Natives can not speak Spanish they speak there native language. My family DNA have European and native american, we are proud of both. We have a ancestor who made Texas history. Our family serve for the USA in past wars…we are model citizens… Dont stereo type us all the same. People will be bad or good it’s up to them not there race.

  10. brady says:

    This article talks alot about “crimes” committed by Americans, in the manner in which they took possesion of lands, before and after the Mexican American war. I don’t see alot of Mexicans that reject the premise of government, but rather seem to demonise the american government while supporting their own government, of which always has an invasion story of its own.

    If government is your view, then win the war if you want the lands. Mexicans havn’t rejected their acceptance of government as the arbitor of lands , properties, and the conducting of war. All lands possessed by government have at some point been usurped from another, and a land that has always been in possession of one group is a rarity beyond compare.

    Government IS the context of “crime” or that which is “stolen”, so don’t come to me crying about the loss of generational lands while you are carrying your mexican governmental identity with you. It would be one thing if the accusation of stolen lands was made by one opposed to all goverment, in support of the natural law, but I’ll never accept that from people going by the assumption that their government is legitimate, but what other governments did to them is not.

    Government IS force, it’s premise is always held in place by coercion and the threat of violence. Your government is just as much based around a geographical psuedo monopoly on the intiation of the use of force as any other: to be pissed about another government being more successful in that ends is hypocritical.

  11. Hugo says:

    men of every race in positions of power have committed atrocities against their fellow men, not just white people.

  12. manicdrummer says:

    The American Southwest actually belonged to Native-Americans, not Mexico. Give it back to them.

    • What do you think Mexicans really are? They are Native Americans!! Mexicans are descendants of Aztecs and they are natives just like Apaches and others. The term “Mexican” derives from the scientific “Mexica” which identify them as Native Americans. Also, Mexicans are not “Latinos” nor “Hispanics” and this apply to all “brown” people descendants of indigenous [native] peoples of the American Continent. Got it?

      • MEXICA says:

        Well said!!!!

      • GreenBeretCapt says:

        And those Aztec’s stole Texas, New Mexico Arizona and California from my people (The Apaches), and we stole it from someone else. Maybe they don’t have as much right to the land as you like to think.

      • Derek says:

        Actually SOME Mexicans are descendants of Aztecs but others are mestizos, which is mixed Spanish and Mexica blood. So the statement that Native Americans are Mexicans is not entirely true. If it were then the MEXICAN government would still be a Mexica, slave sacrificing, theocracy where the leader would depend on dreams and shamans for political advice. Ah, I don’t think that is happening or may be it is.

      • No says:

        Well said😇

      • Mundo says:

        100% correct . Brown skin means Native Indian. Even a 4 year old knows that. White means European descent.

      • James Best says:

        That’s like saying Americans are actually Europeans. No, they are Americans. And Mexicans are Mexicans (Hispanic). Indians are Indians. Swedes are Swedes. Russians are Russians. Chinese are Chinese. Got it???

    • Robert says:

      Mexicans are not native Americans and real native Americans hate the mexicans far worse than the white man.Mexicans are half breeds.Be thankful the spaniards raped your savage ancestors and injected some white blood into your doomed race.

  13. TommieT says:

    The recent map published in Slate shows that European Spaniards ie Mexicans only occupied a few hundred square miles of land around the mouth of the Colorado River. Most of which is still Mexico, but part of which is now the US.

    But most of this area is otherwise desert, roughly the size of Bundy’s ranch. The total Spanish population was around 10,000, in a few small towns of perhaps a few square miles. The rest was “occupied” by Mexican cattle, not people.

    Meanwhile starting in the late 1830s and the early 1840s the Gringos were coming in over the mountains to the West, plus into Texas. Where were the Mexicans? So they are supposed to own the land that Spain gave them without actually having to live there? The Gringos are supposed to seek out some foreign government to pay tribute to?

    • Southcoastman says:

      True

    • g says:

      So you are ok if somebody inhabits an empty property of yours and reclaims it as theirs simply because it’s empty? Good to know!
      Besides Spain gave nothing to Mexico: Texas was part of New Spain (the viceroyalty last 300 years), and when New Spain reach independence it became Mexico, so Texas was always part of it, inhabited or not is completely irrelevant.

      • Your dad says:

        Yes they believe in squatters rights. I wish one them sombitches would try to come near my property. I have guns too Billy.

  14. Jose Sanchez says:

    Who the fuck is usa to steel land. Give it back fucken thieves. Every centimeter. Stupid white trash.

    • Mundo says:

      But let us go even further they learned to take what belonged to others from mother England. That country invaded and stole lands from 90% of the world. Any country can get rich and become a super power by stealing oppressing killing and practicing slavery. They did them all. It is self evident why there exists white supremacy

  15. Cujohe says:

    Hey, Jose. Come kill me and take what is mine.

    • Derek says:

      Yeah, kind of like Mexico took Chiapas and parts of Campeche from Guatemala and Beliz. Yes, they took it by force and yes they killed to get it. Should Mexico give back every centimeter?

  16. James Gragg says:

    The entire argument about the Mexican loss of that land, completely ignores the Treaty of Guadalupe, that ended the Mexican/American war, which Mexico started, and surrendered that land as part of those peace accords. Lands that Mexico itself killed native tribes itself to possess.

    • g says:

      Yeah sure, that Mexico started (like the the war that Iraq “started”, you know, with all those WMD), and the treaty of Guadalupe (signed with the country occupied at gunpoint, narc hitman style) surrendering all the lands that “casually” the US always wanted and tried to buy to Mexico, or how to justify your vileness to keep sleeping at night, a fine American tradition lol

  17. J. V. Jerez says:

    Does anyone remember how many MEXICANS (then known as Tejanos) fought and died inside the Alamo Mission fighting against Santa Ana’s Army? Mexicans who wanted to break away from Mejico and become a part of the new Republic of Texas? It’s something that the history books forgot to mention.

  18. Jackie says:

    Fact: the so-called “Texas Heroes” came from the north as mercenaries to take these lands under a grant offered by the Republic of Mexico.
    Fact::These northern “heroes” (Austin, Travis, David Crocket, Houston, and others) were mercenaries and drunkards,, murderers, and thiefs.
    Fact: These lands in the southwest were legally Mexico, not Spanish, or French.
    Fact: If the “Texas Heroes” and all the other 300 northeners were treated unjustly by the Mexican government like in the case of Stephen Austin, they could had left back home.
    Fact: They didn’t leave, They chose to stayed and fight to steal these rich lands.
    Fact: The invadors took advantage of the situation of the Mexican government to take these lands by disapropieting Mexican rightfull owners of their ranches with all inside.
    Fact: They stole these lands the same as they did to the native indians in the north.
    Therefore, the United States government should make a “Mea Culpa” apology and make reparation for the damages, lands stolen, murderers, and other atrocities made by their people to the native american Mexican as well as all those other Mexican nationals that suffered under their bruttality.
    What is done, is done, and no one can go back to the past, it is what it is today, but reparation should be made, No need for offenses, or insults to either country, let’s live in peace and hamony, and share the goodness of this land today.

  19. Roberto says:

    American people live out of steeling and smoking weed and buying it from Mexico. Fucken Gringos. I feel shame of being born in this country that is extremely full of lies.

  20. Sabrina says:

    Omg Roberto what does smoking weed have to do with this issue lol

  21. James Smith says:

    I doubt that many Texans will agree with this perception. But, at least, I think most of us can agree that we are blessed to have a 1st, Amendment.

  22. Alistair John Simpson says:

    I am British, a Christian Missionary, and a true servant of the Living God Jesus Christ,12 years service in Africa, Tanzania, Kenya, and Zaire, …and now 11 years in beautiful Mexico, AND TRULY I AM ASHAMED TO BE GROUPED WITH THE COLOUR OF SKIN KNOWN AS WHITE!

    Have no doubts or fears good people, Jesus is not Blind, Deaf, nor Crazy….in Heaven He has a computer , the computer of all computers, filled with all the info of evil men, and women, and their evil deeds, and every evil act that THE AGGRESSORS USA , the Romans, Greeks, Germans, AND THE BRITISH, and every conquering group of Political thieves, have brutally and inhumanly committed against so many peoples of the world…..is there, written with a diamond that can never be obliterated nor hidden and all accounts He will settle in full…

    My heart aches for the ignorant, uneducated leaders of this fantastic planet, who take the lead by heinous and atrocious mass killings, and racial genocides which are never punished . They are no more than criminals, whose despicable crimes are never given correct sentences….and are absolved on earth of all their barbarisms…however, the day of reckoning is fast approaching AND HE WHO KEEPS THE ACCOUNTS NEVER SLEEPS, NOR SLUMBERS..

    I have stood on 3 continents and spoken the truth as it is ….and paid a heavy price for doing so, a year in an African Prison, Arusha, Tanzania,…..we, friends need to fight for the truth, and when we see crimes then we must play our part and condemn the guilty..

    OF COURSE USA IS A THIEF, MOST UNPROFESSIONAL AND BLATANTLY CRUDE, AND WITHOUT ANY FEAR OF GOD… BUT BE ASSURED ALL YE SERVANTS OF SATAN YOUR JUDGMENT IS COMING, AND THAT RIGHT FAST…

    YOU HAVE STOLEN HALF OF BEAUTIFUL MEXICO, AND NOW WITH THE NORTH AMERICAN ALLIANCE YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN STEAL THE OTHER HALF….AND TRANSFORM MEXICO INTO JUST ANOTHER STATE OF YOUR HIJACKED EMPIRE, AND MEXICANS INTO YOUR LOWER CLASS, UNDERPAID SERVANTS…

    Gal 6:7 Do not deceive yourselves; no one makes a fool of God. You will reap exactly what you plant.
    Gal 6:7 No os engañeis: Dios no puede ser burlado: que todo lo que el hombre sembrare, eso también segará.

    YOUR TIME AS WITH ALL EVIL PERPETRATORS, IS OVER, YOUR EMPIRE IS FALLING APART, AND THE PIPER MUST BE PAID.

    • Jaime says:

      What do you know about this conflict?. If you are British maybe you can have a more objective point of view about this war. USA and Mexican history books could lie at their convenience. (I am Mexican)

    • Robert says:

      Go back to England and lick your queens ass and leave us to deal with the southern savages as we see fit.

    • Helen Kelley says:

      Thank you for standing steadfast on the truth of man’s inhumanity to another human being. I often think about the British monarchy/Great Britain – they ‘stole’ Australia, New Zealand and the Americas and land that belonged to Mexico. In this day they do not see it as a heinous crime, nor want to be reminded of it. Their 21st century ancestors are happily benefiting from the heinous crimes that had been perpetrated by their ancestors. Many of these people do not believe in the reality of God, and go about their business as if there is nothing to repent or regret. However, God is fully aware, and there will come a day of accountability..

  23. Joseph Adan says:

    Hey, you gringos who argue that the us did not stele half of Mexico, you don’t know the extent that the us government would go to gain empire. If you say that the us paid mexico 15 million pesos for the land stolen, you are wrong. Mexico did not want to sell even one inch of its territory, but gringo guns were bigger and more plentiful than those of Mexico. The us threw the money in the face of the Mexican government so that the history books would say that the us bought the land. You called the theft, “manifest destiny, right? Well I call manifest destiny when the Chinese will some day, sooner than later, march into washington the way you marched into Mexico City. Let’s see how philosophical you are then.

  24. No says:

    Mexico was stolen can’t believe how ignorant some people are thinking it wasn’t it was forcibly taken. Mexicans are going to take it back and many other races are coming along with us unfortunately once stolen always stolen. The white race is diminishing and their powers getting weaker that’s why they are threatened by the Mexicans and trying to get rid of them it’s because we are coming back to claim what is ours!!!

    • That’s it. You got that right.

      • Markwills says:

        so you consider yourself to be the north American equivalent to a Zionist. (yes, I’m being snarky with this first comment). I do wonder if you support the Palestinian cause and yet fail to see that you are making the same type of land claim with generally even less justification than the Israelis.

        so let’s look at your claims.

        first, no Aztec, Mayan, or Inca descendant has any claim whatsoever to any land north of the Rio Grande, historical or otherwise. your attempt to lump yourselves in with other Native Americans is a grave insult to the Comanche, Kiowa, Apache, and Yaqui native Americans that the Mexican government stole land from and brutally fought against.(which included white, Mexican, and other native American tribe scalp hunters and similar mercenaries). also try asking said native tribes if they support your “cause”, they would rather spit in your face than agree to such ludicrous claims. as poorly as they have been treated by the US government , they would still rather be inside the USA than part of Mexico.
        second, the government that originally signed the treaty ceding the land to the USA doesn’t actually exist any more, having rewritten their own Constitution at least twice. just because you have some racial and genealogical connection to them, doesn’t mean you have the right to “take back” the lands that your ancestors took from others before you.

        what is my point? ALL sides have committed brutal atrocities, the earlier mentioned tribes sent raids deep into Mexico, white thugs killed Mexican ranchers that helped them fight to form an independent Texas and took their ranches, and so on. NOBODY has clean hands.
        but, what’s done is done. we need to teach a whole and accurate history so the mistakes and atrocities of the past hopefully won’t be repeated

  25. Barack Obama says:

    Is this article for real?

    I am confused because you left out: Mexico falling into dictatorship in October 1935; Texas Revolt in October 1935; Texas Independence in April 1936; Complete lack of law enforcement; California Revolt in June 1846. Then after a short war, the US reestablished the Constitution of Mexico in August 1846, brought back democracy, and paid Mexico for the conquered land.

    Also, I think that Polk ran on annexing Texas, which was an independent nation that had requested admission twice. And Mexico fell into dictatorship again under the Austrian Maximilian in June 1864, during the U.S. Civil War, (Queen Victoria of Britain ordered the Gibraltar Garrison to all stand in salute while the Hapsburg flotilla proceeded to Mexico), which scared the U.S. into Sherman’s March to the Sea in Nov 1864, which destroyed the south.

  26. Niko says:

    For those stupid ignorant gringos, that still believe that this land was not stolen take a look at real history.

    Compiled by Chris Schefler
    Chris Schefler’s Home Page Did you know that until 1848 California, New Mexico and other portions of the Southwest were internationally recognized provinces of free Mexico, until the U.S. decided it wanted those provinces, declared war on Mexico, and stole them? Read on for the chronology of these events, and then ask yourself  : “Who are the real illegal in California?” Prior to 1822 What is today Mexico, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, and California are all Spanish colonies.1822Mexican colonists, following the American revolution, rebel against Spain and win their own revolutionary war, making Mexico a free nation just like America.1844James Polk campaigns for the U.S. presidency, supporting expansion of U.S. territories into Mexico.February, 1845James Polk, on his inagauguration night, confides to his Secretary of the Navy that a principal objective of his presidency is the acquisition of California, which Mexico had been refusing to sell to the U.S. at any price.Early 1845The Washington Union, expressing the position of James Polk, writes: “…who can arrest the torrent that will pour onward to the West? The road to California will be open to us. Who will stay the march…?” “A corps of properly organized volunteers…would invade, overrun, and occupy Mexico. They would enable us not only to take California, but to keep it.” Early 1845 John O’Sullivan, editor of the Democratic review writes it is “Ourmanifest destiny to overspread the continent …for the free development of our yearly multiplying millions.” Early 1845James Polk promises Texas he will support moving the historical Texas/Mexico border at the Nueces river 150 miles south to the Rio Grande provided Texas agrees to join the union. “The traditional border between Texas and Mexico had been the Nueces River…and both the United States and Mexico had recognized that as the border.” (Zinn, p. 148) June 30, 1845James Polk orders troops to march south of the traditional Texas/Mexico border into Mexican inhabited territory, causing Mexicans to flee their villages and abandon their crops in terror. 

    “Ordering troops to the Rio Grande, into territory inhabited by Mexicans, was clearly a provocation.” (Zinn, p. 148) 

    “President Polk had incited war by sending American soldiers into what was disputed territory, historically controlled and inhabited by Mexicans.” (John Schroeder , “Mr. Polk’s War”)

     Early 1846Colonel Hitchcock, commander of the 3rd Infantry regiment, writes in his diary: “…the United States are the aggressors….We have not one particle of right to be here….It looks as if the government sent a small force on purpose to bring on a war, so as to have a pretext for taking California and as much of this country as it chooses….My heart is not in this business.” May 9, 1846President Polk tells his cabinet: “…up to this time…we have heard of no open aggression by the Mexican Army.” May 10, 1846Violence erupts between Mexican and American troops south of the Nueces River. Of course Polk claims Mexicans had fired the first shot, but in his famous “spot resolutions” congressman Abraham Lincoln repeatedly challenges president Polk to name the exact “spot” where Mexicans first attacked American troops. Polk never met the challenge. May 11, 1846President Polk urges congress to declare war on Mexico. May 12, 1846: Horace Greeley writes in the New York Tribune: “We can easily defeat the armies of Mexico, slaughter them by thousands, and pursue them perhaps to their capital; we can conquer and “annex” their territory; but what then? Who believes that a score of victories over Mexico, the “annexation” of half of her provinces, will give us more Liberty, a purer Morality, a more prosperous Industry…? 1846Congressman Abraham Lincoln, speaking in a session of congress “…the president unnecessarily and unconstitutionally commenced a war with Mexico….The marching an army into the midst of a peaceful Mexican settlement, frightening the inhabitants away, leaving their growing crops and other property to destruction, to you may appear a perfectly amiable, peaceful, un- provoking procedure; but it does not appear so to us.”  after war is underway, the American press comments: 

    February 11, 1847. The “Congressional Globe” reports: “…We must march from ocean to ocean….We must march from Texas straight to the Pacific ocean….It is the destiny of the white race, it is the destiny of the Anglo-Saxon Race.” 

    The New York Herald: “The universal Yankee Nation can regenerate and disenthrall the people of Mexico in a few years; and we believe it is a part of our destiny to civilize that beautiful country.” 

    American Review writes of Mexicans “yielding to a superior population, insensibly oozing into her territories, changing her customs, and out-living, exterminating her weaker blood.” 

    1846-1848U.S. Army battles Mexico, not just enforcing the new Texas border at the Rio Grande but capturing Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, and California (as well as marching as far south as Mexico City). 1848 Mexico surrenders on U.S. terms (U.S. takes over ownership of New Mexico, California, an expanded Texas, and more, for a token payment of $15 million, which leads the Whig Intelligencer to report: “We take nothing by conquest….Thank God”).(date unknown) General Ulysses S. Grant calls the Mexican War “the most unjust war ever undertaken by a stronger nation against a weaker one.

  27. prod says:

    Yes^^ exactly! We were separate, I don’t know they keep calling us Mexican either, we were there first, just like Spanish Cubans, Spanish Puerto Ricans, and so on we are Spanish Texans, not Mexicans, it’s like they’re doing a genocide on our history, wtf. Like we have papers, birth certificates dating back to 1700’s….it was not Mexico. That was our land second, being the indigenous first. Mexico didn’t come in til mid 1800’s…for just 10 years.

    • prod says:

      We were separate, I don’t know why they keep calling us Mexican either, we were there first, just like Spanish Cubans, Spanish Puerto Ricans, and so on we are Spanish Texans, not Mexicans, it’s like they’re doing a genocide on our history, wtf. Like we have papers, birth certificates dating back to 1700’s….it was not Mexico. That was our land second, being the indigenous first. Mexico didn’t come in til mid 1800’s…for just 10 years.

  28. Cynthia says:

    First off this land doesn’t belong to no one and yes America is the land of greed,murder, corruption !! No milk and honey… Indians and Mexicans lived and occupied this land thus borrowed land …GOD ‘s land remember that !! America will burn for its evil it’s done!!

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  30. car1999 says:

    They stole it first…..dumbasses. Mexico was a great place, then the people pussed out and let the cartel fags take over…..every third world country is in their situation because of idiots and drugs. Now the obama idiots want to fuck America up…..

  31. 13_Legion says:

    You guys are going to lose your minds when Texas Rising comes out.

  32. Diego Concepción Hernández says:

    Emm is we talk about us and uk stealer i put some examples to make u think Hawaii was from france and us stealer it its funny because us and france are friends .OR NOT? costa rica all spanish but us stealed AND LETS NOT TALK ABOUT MEXICO… IN THE ”SIGLO” 19 US STEALED MIDDLE MEXICO … AND COBVERT THE CITIES ONTO FKING FAMOUS LIES : TEJAS: EL PASO AUSTIN DALLAS ETC… . CALIFORNIA: US STEALED ONE OF THE THREE CALIFORNIAS THE NORTHEN ONE , AND MADE OF IT A STATE FULL OF MOVIES AND STARS FULL OF LIES … SAN FRANCISCO , HOLLYWOOD, INGLEWOOOD, THAT 2 STATES ARE THE ,OST AFFECTED AN GO TO:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican–American_War TO SEE MORE STATES AFFECTED US IS A TOTTALY JERK AND WTF IS BARACK OBAMA COMMENTING IN HERE ITS TO FUCKING STUPID AND STRANGE I THINKED THAT PRESIDENTS DONT HAVE FREE TIME XDXDXD

  33. LOLO says:

    Read about the yaqui nation! my dads side of the family said thats where I’m from. this tribe has been on texas, arizona, and new mexico and going into what is now a mexican border. at one time one of the largest tribes associated with the apaches. this is the tribe of a whole race that mexico and america and spain almost made extinct. you can find us on both sides of the border now. most of us on this side are know mexican/ americans. truth is none of my family came from across the border and i have gone back three generations to try to check.THIS IS THE TRUTH.

  34. RayMc says:

    Thieves

    • RayMc says:

      Thanks for the info about the YAQUI PEOPLE. That just verified the evil souls and greed of mankind that lead to murder, slavery, thief, and more. It is really ashame how proud and evil our generation of people are. Too much greed, racism, and hate. People need to try to live in peace and stop killing, hating, and stealing.

  35. Stan says:

    Name a prosperous Spainish speaking country? Can’t do it either. If you only speak Spanish and can’t read this, feel free to jump out border and realize the benefits of a awesome country. If you can read English and understand this post, and do not like it, feel free to pack your shit and move to a Spanish speaking country. Enjoy. What I posted is a fact. explain that away. God bless America. The America all the central and South Americans come too.

    • g says:

      Spanish had one of the most biggest empire on Earth, and felt. USA will fall someday and will bite the dust also.

      • Bond Summers says:

        If USA bites the dust, it would be because of latinos, africans, middle easterners,….
        Northwest Europeans make good societies, at least within themselves.
        You want multiculturalism? Though it brings many good things too.

    • John says:

      The United States belongs to every U.S. citizen regardless of color, origin, religion etc. No U.S. citizen has to leave the country if they disagree with other U.S. citizen. People have unalienable rights. The European immigrants violated the unalienable rights of Native Americans, African Americans and Mexicans while, at the same time, trumpeting how respectful the country was of human rights. Everyone needs to learn about human rights and start respecting them. Otherwise, everyone on this planet will continue to behave like animals instead of like humane human beings.

  36. You White Supremacist and Racists People are so powerful not for hard work but for all the atrocities, savages and stolen properties and resources that you took from others. You should be ashamed to say that this land is your land when it is so obvious that you provoked Mexico to take the land. Stop making up lies to justify your wrong-doings.

    • Robert says:

      Not ashamed.To the victor,go the spoils of war.If you want it back.take it back…if you dare.

    • Robert says:

      Aww….poor baby wants to cry in his Cheerios?Get used to savage.We took what was yours on war and that’s the only possible way you can get it back.But we all know that isn’t going to happen.

  37. Fred says:

    The only question that needs to be answered is how far into the past do we want to look to determine who the rightful “owners” of ANY land might be. If we continue to waste our time and resources fighting over the past then no one really wins, only hatred, pain and death. The only course of action that will bring peace, joy and contentment to all is to look to the future and determine how we can find common ground and live together working towards a common good.

  38. Robert says:

    We stole nothing from you.We offered to pay your dirty brown ancestors for the territories we wanted….you stupid,stupid ancestors refused.So we declared war and sent Winfield Scott to take it by right of conquest.He rode into your Capital,Mexico City,at the head of an American army and demanded the uncoditional surrender of the country.The Mexicans wisely capitulated and we were merciful.We still paid for the territories,but only half our original offer.Futhermore,we gave you back the rest of mexico.We didn’t have to do that,but imagine how much better your life we be if we had you dogs.

    • g says:

      Yeah sure, keep saying this to yourself to feel better of your primitive, law of the jungle, anything goes mentality, redneck.
      Boy, and I thought whities were the civilized ones lol

  39. Robert says:

    Feel free to try and recover your lands if you wish.But understand that war and weapons manufacture is our bread and butter and we are damn fucking good at both.You wouldn’t last a fortnight.

    • g says:

      Your weapons are meaningless when your new Chinese overlords buy your country, but hey, don’t feel bad, “to the victor, go the spoils of war”, enjoy the decline lol

      • rafexchange says:

        Look g, if the chinese take over the usa that means mexicans and all hispanic, latino and native americans (and everyone else!) will have to deal with chinese rule and aggression. Do you actually believe that you will be treated any better? Besides that, I don’t believe that the usa will just lay down and let the chinese or any other nation or group of people just walk in and take anything without meeting serious opposition. Mexico trying to take any land back will never succeed. It is possible that mexican americans could become the majority in texas but still be under the rule of the american government. The chinese trying to claim america will mean the start of world war 3 in which every person on the planet will suffer horribly.

  40. Wesley Cragun says:

    Would you believe me if I told you that the southwest was purchased for 15 million dollars, and therefore not technically stolen?

  41. guitar man says:

    One of the rules of war is “To the victors go the spoils”. Defense rests.

  42. Maika says:

    The USA southwest has always been owned by Mexicans !

    • felipe says:

      Actually, it was owned by the Indians, and then by Spain, and then by Mexico, and then by the US.

      • King Kano says:

        Felipe…The US offered everyone citizenship also look how much better the land is for everyone…I not see Mexicans going back to Mexico for the good life? Texas was also not part f the US it was territory whatever the hell that means…Everyone is taking this and spin it as a they hate us Mexican thing and it is not…98% of people love Hispanics art, music, if it is quality, the damn food is great, culture but it gets down to this..If I go to Mexico illegally they lock me up rape me and deport me…I think the USA is more than fair to illegals more fair than other countries especially Mexico…I do not hate anyone, but when someone, even the KKK blacks, Latinos try to push their agenda on me, I fight back…Join or die is for a reason and American is better of now, because Hispanics and blacks gave up fighting for something that was a flawed argument…Everyone is better of today and yes, the USA GOV is holding us all back because they want to control the money…So what is new? And the US government is not all white now, it is everyone they all suck

  43. Your Daddy says:

    Not our fault Mexicans are too weak to hold their territory. And as to the racist comments about America being dirty, we aren’t the filthy ones. We aren’t the ones blaming others people for our failures. We aren’t the defeated nation.

    • g says:

      Sure, because when you don’t have any legitimate reason to justify a nasty prank, nothing like to invoke the law of the jungle, how civilized and morally advanced your nation lol
      I hope you say the same when a relative of yours is stolen or murderer, because as you say it’s not the fault of the criminal if the victim is too weak to hold their belongings or save his life, right?

  44. What “American” is everyone talking about? The only genuine American is an Indian, Mexican or Inuit living on this continent for 5000 years. The others are nothing more than paper American forced by documentation by Europeans terrorist invading this continent and committing genocide on the Natives of this continent. The so called border is not even over 300 years old but the natives clans have been living here for 5000 or more years. Evil greed is what fueled the Manifest Destiny killing cry for the European terrorist. Their history is fake and the European man believes his own made up heroic story that will soon be exposed and the white man legacy will be one of the greatest evils ever committed by humanity against humanity. The only white hero is what they have portrayed by Hollywood – just fake imagery adopted only by the sad, pathetic white man.

    • Billy Boy says:

      As if the natives just got along with one another singing kumbaya under the stars with love and peace. All the natives did was steal each other’s sh_t for those thousands of years, thats why tribal boundaries were constantly moving around, expanding or contracting, while everyone turned into murderers of opportunity grabbing anything they could possibly hold onto.

      Many native tribes WERE largely peaceful and didn’t deserve what happened to them like the Mandan and Cherokee. And then there extreme a__hole tribes who made torturing and mutilation of captives including women and children a matter of sport like the Comanche and usually having their own ‘innocent’ women and children be the torturers. There are those that deserve to be weeped over, and those that deserve to have their graves spat upon, bulldozed over, and turned into a walmart parking lot.

      I’ve got no sympathy for the wannabee ‘Aztec warriors’ considering all they did was murder tens of thousands of innocent people just in a single multiday ceremony repeated every year from surrounding tribes after torturing them half to death as matter of course. Who then mostly got their asses kicked by the equally vicious Spaniards who lacked the interest, will, or firepower to hold anything much north of the Rio Grande anyways not even defending those early ‘proto-americans’ from anything, including Comanche or Apache raiders in the area. YOU’VE GOT NO MORAL CLAIM whether you claim aztec lineage, spanish right of conquest stealing it from the indians, or basic nationalism of just even holding onto a piece of territory defending the citizens of that claimed territory. And once the ‘plan of san diego’ racial supremacists worse-than-the-nazis “murder every white person above age 16” totalitarians are recognized for what they are, they will hopefully be dealt with in the same way the nazis were dealt with.

  45. Glory says:

    It seems to me all of the above have forgotten one very important thing…All of the U. S. and Mexico were taken by force from their real owners –THE AMERICAN INDIANS– SO TAKE THAT AND CHEW ON IT .

  46. markwills says:

    I thought at first ttif was sane, so I crafted a thoughtful response to a comment.
    upon looking at other pages here, which appear to be nothing but hate-filled, delusional psychotic BS about “devil worshipping , demonic Jews” and such idiocy, I realized this was not the case.
    ttif seems to blame Jews for absolutely everything wrong with this world, and probably blames them if he has a bad bowel movement.
    I’m quite sorry that I wasted my time on this nuttery

  47. Nuevo futuro says:

    Now think about this, and think deeply…… Look around in the US and take notes, there is more Hispanics (Mexicans, central Americans and South Americans) in the US then blacks, and there will be no whites in just a matter of time.. The ignorance of whites has cause their own extinction.. Good by (great America).

    • REPLY TO NUEVO FUTURO: YOUR COMMENT “… THERE WILL BE NO WHITES IN
      JUST A MATTER OF TIME…” I’M AFRAID YOU ARE CORRECT NUEVO. IF WHAT IS NOW
      THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TODAY, EVENTUALLY CEASES TO BE DECADES
      FROM NOW IT WILL NOT BE DO TO LACK OF MILITARY STRENGTH. IT WILL
      INSTEAD BE DUE TO “LACK OF WHITE PEOPLE”. READ THE BOOK “THE DEATH OF
      THE WEST” BY PATRICK J . BUCHANAN. HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM THAT BOOK:
      QUOTE : ” THE WEST IS DYING. COLLAPSING BIRTH RATES IN EUROPE AND THE
      UNITED STATES, COUPLED WITH POPULATION EXPLOSIONS IN AFRICA, ASIA,
      AND LATIN AMERICA ARE SET TO CAUSE CATACLYSMIC SHIFTS IN WORLD POWER,
      AS UNCHECKED IMMIGRATION SWAMPS AND POLARIZES EVERY WESTERN SOCIETY
      AND NATION”. END QUOTE. TO PARAPHRASE T.S. ELIOT “THE HOLLOW MAN”,
      THIS IS THE WAY THE USA WILL POSSIBLY END. NOT WITH A BANG BUT A
      WHIMPER. WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY NEXT WILL PROBABLY SOUND XENOPHOBIC.
      BUT IF WHITE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS WHITES IN EUROPE
      WANT TO KEEP THEIR CULTURE THEN THEY HAD BETTER START HAVING KIDS.
      LOTS OF KIDS. BECAUSE PEOPLES OF COLOR ARE HAVING LOTS OF KIDS.

  48. Bill Heath says:

    lol Let’s review Mexico who brutally killed the Natives and stole the land from them, won a war over Spain that gives them claim but when they lost the war and was paid for the land they still want to keep their claim? That is insane, you lost the war, Mexico didn’t even exist until 1821 and the controlled the land for less than 50 years and it wasn’t their land to begin with! AZLAN is a twisted ideology that exists only in sick racist minds!
    !

  49. King Kano says:

    Well, now we get to see what southern California would look like by now, if the land was in Mexico hands, it would full of gangs, drugs, anti American rhetoric, flaying the wrong flag, this is why I am moving north…I remember, 40 years ago, how beautiful California was now, it looks like Mexico…I say give it back to them from SLO country down, just give it to them, and build the new wall there

  50. Bill Williams says:

    Name one city…JUST ONE, that Mexicans have moved into and fixed up or improved. The truth is you destroy everything you touch

  51. rafexchange says:

    The children will always suffer for the atrocities of the forefathers. It looks to me that every nationality has a beef with other nationalities because of atrocities, unfairness and immoralities committed in the past. Even smaller native American tribes and the more peaceful tribes were pushed around and suffered at the hands of larger and more aggressive tribes. Even if the white race becomes extinct, trust me, another race of people will be right there to take their place and be just as arrogant or worse.

  52. Unfortunately rafexchange your so right – humanity is jealous & will bully others around if allowed. That’s why the illusion of America the way the terrorist propagandist mandates be taught to any & all has to be exposed for the fraud that it is… Namely the Americas, the surrounding islands, Australia, New Zealand, Africa has made the Europeans rich from their atrocities against the natives of those lands. All natural natives of all those lands are in turmoil, suffering poverty, disease & crime because of the oppressive treatment of those natives. No Mexico did not exist until the Europeans came and renamed, claimed and sectioned off lands that the natives lived freely on & with each other. Mexican & American Indians were ancient natives on this land – a rose is still a rose & we are still the real Americans. Europeans will have a legacy of destruction, murderous theft & lies because that’s the truth. They don’t belong on these land and never did but they are greedy and cause most of the ugly crime, poverty, etc. that natives never heard of – this all came from Europe.

    • Patricia Kelley says:

      Cultures are always in opposition, but individuals are often longing for unification and love toward those who live differently. Such is the case throughout history, and also was the case of the whites coming to the Americas. Yes, there were many offensive brutes, who were egotistic, selfish, and undoubtedly stole what belonged to others. However, the biggest reason Europeans whites came to the land was to flee religious persecution from other European whites. Many of those were also goal bound to spread Christianity to natives. Much of history gets lost or hidden, because what gets remembered is what is written in history books. Of course, the one who wins the war, writes those history books. Not so nice, however, that is world wide historical. I humbly submit to you, that we are all looking for happiness. It’s not found on this earth. We think the goal of reclaiming land that belong to our culture will get us to achieve our goals and happiness. It won’t, as there is no end of trying to fill that empty spot in our hearts, until we realize that the empty spot was meant to be filled with God himself. When we realize, that God provided our means of happiness in himself and take Him, there is nothing more satisfying than knowing His love and value of us, his wayward creation.

      • Iman says:

        Thank you Patricia, for your belief and love of God and humanity. I admire people like you and wish to live only among them.

  53. IF WHITE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS WHITES IN EUROPE WANT THEIR
    RACE AND CULTURE TO SURVIVE, THEN THEY HAD BETTER START HAVING MORE KIDS.
    LOTS OF KIDS. WHY? READ THE BOOK : “THE DEATH OF THE WEST”, BY PATRICK J.
    BUCHANAN.

  54. The white race is dying. Read the book: “the death of the west”, by Patrick J. BUCHANAN

    • Jean-luc Picard says:

      WTF is a White Race. You mean the non defined “American” Pig race. Pink folk with no other association but skin color. I know white looking Mexicans and Arabs too dipshit. Now what? cultural affiliations always take heed. And let us remember Rome was the center of the earth once, For those who believed it to be true. And Portugal, once a great nation barely makes a dent in the EU economy, much less worldwide. Shifting tides indeed. Ich bin kein Freund von Hunden. Bastards.

    • John says:

      Thank you for your comment Mr. Wesolosky. You seem like an open minded nice person. We need more people like you in the world.

  55. We are all humans-We are one says:

    To those who speak as if they know, learn the true history and not rely on what is simply on the surface. Dig deep and understand the corruption that lies among us all, no matter where you are from. For those that hate and discriminate are simply recipients of an imperial tradition.

  56. Dexter Tyson says:

    Over the past few years, as a student of history and trying to be as open minded as possible considering how skewed history can be when the victors write the story, I have just come across so many stories of U.S involvement in all kinds of mess around the world. The benefit, to me, that the U.S has over the older European nations is that it has often done its dirty deeds with “justifiable reasons.” The colonial British, French and Spaniards were bad people, overrunning the globe and enslaving and killing people and taking over their lands, but we Americans only did it when people bothered us or we got our lands through fair fights. That is where I have my problem.

    One of the popular mantras I have heard and seen from the U.S side to justify invasions and land acquisitions has been “to protect American interests” Hell, one of the things that sparked the American Revolution was the fact that the American colonists wanted to grab more land to their west that was occupied by First Nations (“Indians”). The British (who ruled those colonies and had endured a war with these First Nations), did not want to provoke another war with them and instructed their colonists to stay out of lands NOT belonging to them. That did not go over well with them and it more or less set the precedent for the air of privilege Americans have developed as part of their historical narrative.

    The story is often always the same. An American or Americans enter a land. They set up shop. They see “room for growth” and needing more land. They get into some skirmish with the local people. The Americans cry to Washington. Washington sends troops to protect “American interests” and before you know it, there’s a “justifiable invasion” and land is taken, people exploited, horrors committed that are shoved under the rug, and/or puppet governments that continue to further or “protect U.S interests” set up. Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Hawaii, Iraq and a whole bunch of places have seen this tactic and the Southwestern U.S was no different. Have your people move in on other people’s land without restriction. Let them multiply freely until the outnumber the local population. Let tensions simmer until they cry that the locals are being mean to them. Invade the land on behalf of your people. Beat up the locals and take their land because they dared fight back and you won against the bad local people. To make it look even better, pay them for the land you took with pocket change.

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